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the writings-3-第22章

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the abolition should be gradual; second; that it should be on a

vote of the majority of qualified voters in the District; and

third; that compensation should be made to unwilling owners。

With these three conditions; I confess I would be exceedingly

glad to see Congress abolish slavery in the District of Columbia;

and; in the language of Henry Clay; 〃sweep from our capital that

foul blot upon our nation。〃



In regard to the fifth interrogatory; I must say here that; as to

the question of the abolition of the slave…trade between the

different States; I can truly answer; as I have; that I am

pledged to nothing about it。  It is a subject to which I have not

given that mature consideration that would make me feel

authorized to state a position so as to hold myself entirely

bound by it。  In other words; that question has never been

prominently enough before me to induce me to investigate whether

we really have the constitutional power to do it。  I could

investigate it if I had sufficient time to bring myself to a

conclusion upon that subject; but I have not done so; and I say

so frankly to you here; and to Judge Douglas。  I must say;

however; that if I should be of opinion that Congress does

possess the constitutional power to abolish the slave…trade among

the different States; I should still not be in favor of the

exercise of that power; unless upon some conservative principle

as I conceive it; akin to what I have said in relation to the

abolition of slavery in the District of Columbia。



My answer as to whether I desire that slavery should be

prohibited in all the Territories of the United States is full

and explicit within itself; and cannot be made clearer by any

comments of mine。  So I suppose in regard to the question whether

I am opposed to the acquisition of any more territory unless

slavery is first prohibited therein; my answer is such that I

could add nothing by way of illustration; or making myself better

understood; than the answer which I have placed in writing。



Now in all this the Judge has me; and he has me on the record。  I

suppose he had flattered himself that I was really entertaining

one set of opinions for one place; and another set for another

place; that I was afraid to say at one place what I uttered at

another。  What I am saying here I suppose I say to a vast

audience as strongly tending to Abolitionism as any audience in

the State of Illinois; and I believe I am saying that which; if

it would be offensive to any persons and render them enemies to

myself; would be offensive to persons in this

audience。



I now proceed to propound to the Judge the interrogatories; so

far as I have framed them。  I will bring forward a new

installment when I get them ready。  I will bring them forward now

only reaching to number four。

The first one is:



Question 1。If the people of Kansas shall; by means entirely

unobjectionable in all other respects; adopt a State

constitution; and ask admission into the Union under it; before

they have the requisite number of inhabitants according to the

English bill;some ninety…three thousand;will you vote to

admit them?



Q。  2。Can the people of a United States Territory; in any

lawful way; against the wish of any citizen of the United States;

exclude slavery from its limits prior to the formation of a State

constitution?



Q。  3。  If the Supreme Court of the United States shall decide

that States cannot exclude slavery from their limits; are you in

favor of acquiescing in; adopting; and following such decision as

a rule of political action?



Q。  4。  Are you in favor of acquiring additional territory; in

disregard of how such acquisition may affect the nation on the

slavery question?



As introductory to these interrogatories which Judge Douglas

propounded to me at Ottawa; he read a set of resolutions which he

said Judge Trumbull and myself had participated in adopting; in

the first Republican State Convention; held at Springfield in

October; 1854。  He insisted that I and Judge Trumbull; and

perhaps the entire Republican party; were responsible for the

doctrines contained in the set of resolutions which he read; and

I understand that it was from that set of resolutions that he

deduced the interrogatories which he propounded to me; using

these resolutions as a sort of authority for propounding those

questions to me。  Now; I say here to…day that I do not answer his

interrogatories because of their springing at all from that set

of resolutions which he read。  I answered them because Judge

Douglas thought fit to ask them。  I do not now; nor ever did;

recognize any responsibility upon myself in that set of

resolutions。  When I replied to him on that occasion; I assured

him that I never had anything to do with them。  I repeat here to

today that I never in any possible form had anything to do with

that set of resolutions  It turns out; I believe; that those

resolutions were never passed in any convention held in

Springfield。



It turns out that they were never passed at any convention or any

public meeting that I had any part in。  I believe it turns out;

in addition to all this; that there was not; in the fall of 1854;

any convention holding a session in Springfield; calling itself a

Republican State Convention; yet it is true there was a

convention; or assemblage of men calling themselves a convention;

at Springfield; that did pass some resolutions。  But so little

did I really know of the proceedings of that convention; or what

set of resolutions they had passed; though having a general

knowledge that there had been such an assemblage of men there;

that when Judge Douglas read the resolutions; I really did not

know but they had been the resolutions passed then and there。  I

did not question that they were the resolutions adopted。  For I

could not bring myself to suppose that Judge Douglas could say

what he did upon this subject without knowing that it was true。

I contented myself; on that occasion; with denying; as I truly

could; all connection with them; not denying or affirming whether

they were passed at Springfield。  Now; it turns out that he had

got hold of some resolutions passed at some convention or public

meeting in Kane County。  I wish to say here; that I don't

conceive that in any fair and just mind this discovery relieves

me at all。  I had just as much to do with the convention in Kane

County as that at Springfield。  I am as much responsible for the

resolutions at Kane County as those at Springfield;the amount

of the responsibility being exactly nothing in either case; no

more than there would be in regard to a set of resolutions passed

in the moon。



I allude to this extraordinary matter in this canvass for some

further purpose than anything yet advanced。  Judge Douglas did

not make his statement upon that occasion as matters that he

believed to be true; but he stated them roundly as being true; in

such form as to pledge his veracity for their truth。  When the

whole matter turns out as it does; and when we consider who Judge

Douglas is; that he is a distinguished Senator of the United

States; that he has served nearly twelve years as such; that his

character is not at all limited as an ordinary Senator of the

United States; but that his name has become of world…wide

renown;it is most extraordinary that he should so far forget

all the suggestions of justice to an adversary; or of prudence to

himself; as to venture upon the assertion of that which the

slightest investigation would have shown him to be wholly false。

I can only account for his having done so upon the supposition

that that evil genius which has attended him through his life;

giving to him an apparent astonishing prosperity; such as to lead

very many good men to doubt there being any advantage in virtue

over vice;I say I can only account for it on the supposition

that that evil genius has as last made up its mind to 
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